FCC Minutes 01/03/2021

Fairlie Community Council – Monday 01/03/2021, h. 07:30pm, Zoom meeting

Attending: FCC: Rita Holmes (Chair); Marco Piva (minutes taker); Alan Holden; David Nairn; David Telford; Ian Hunter NAC: Cllr. Tom Marshall, Cllr. Alan Hill, Cllr. Ian Murdoch Police: PC Helen Coyle Press: Calum Corral (Largs & Millport News) 6 MoP Apologies: Karla Tully (FCC); Alex Gallagher (NA Councillor) Approval of February minutes: proposed by DT, seconded by AHo

Police report: 01/02/2021 – 28/02/2021: 37 reports of which 4 crimes: 3 vandalism, 1 road traffic (last year, 26 reports of which 5 crimes) The Police have been circulating in an unmarked vehicle monitoring instances of vandalism; none was spotted, they will continue doing so. MoP reported, via the 101 system, vandalism at the tennis court about 10 days ago (to be further discussed later, point 4). The Police are looking into it Answering to a question that was asked during the Feb FCC meeting: the road accident that happened at the foot of School Brae around Christmas was not mentioned in the monthly report because no crimes were committed in that instance DT What is the Police’s opinion regarding the future pedestrian crossing? Does it seem to be too close to the street corner? PC HC Not as far as we can say IM raised the same issue last month and was reassured; an independent safety audit is due to take place before it is installed

NA Cllrs’ update The Cllrs will comment on the single agenda items as they are discussed

6. RES 3 Kelburn update (this point of the agenda is brought ahead to facilitate David Boyle of Kelburn Castle, who needs to leave the meeting earlier due to prior commitments) DB Phase 2 of the works is nearly completed; it involves restoration of the roof of the 1700 wing (phase 1 was mostly focussed on the tower). The final costs of Ph. 2 haven’t been confirmed yet. Trustees are not meeting in person due to the current emergency situation, an online meeting will be held soon. All payments going through the trust (in or out) are seen and must be approved by each of the trustees. DT Are the trustees confident that the trust is getting all the money due? DB All the money from the sale of the land went straight to the trust DT Are all the payments due because of RES 3 [see attachment 1] being regularly paid? The profits have increased [see attachment 1], have the payments to the trust equally increased? DB The initial fixed fee has been paid back in 2004; presently trying to arrange a meeting with Dawn. Possibly the uplift will be received once the next phase of houses has been completed? DT Looking at the data [see attachment 1], all adjustments seem to have been made in favour of Dawn and not in favour of community benefit. There may be an explanation, of course, but we’d like to receive one. What quantity surveyors are involved? DB Alan Angus, hired by Kelburn, who is focussing on checking whether all expenses are appropriate; one hired by Dawn/RDK Construction

1. Hunterston SSG Monthly updates are being given via video calls, regularly, both for HuntA and HuntB, on request. HuntA: progress is slow HuntB: R3 and R4 will be switched off no later than the end of March for checking. If EDF’s prediction re. the core cracking is proven wrong, they will not be applying for a 6-month extension. If they are instead restarted, they will be offline and ready for defueling (and, later, decommissioning) not after the 7th of January 2022. The next SSG will take place on Zoom on Thursday the 4th of March. MoPs can apply to attend by emailing jill.m.callander@magnoxsites.com DT As the DEPZ has been shrunk (as discussed during the Feb FCC meeting), there needs to be an offsite plan covering the surrounding areas, as per agreement emanated in 2019 via an Act of Parliament. DT contacted NAC for information on this, was redirected to South Ayrshire Council, who have been preparing such plan. No answer yet. Wondering why the preparation of such document was subcontracted to another Council. The aforementioned Act of Parliament makes it clear that such plans should be available to the public TM NA Cllrs will try to find and share the document

2. A78 IM Roadworks have been completed, including resurfacing and an improvement to drainage (which will be tested only in occasion of the next heavy rain). Last instance of works on A78 is on Gallowgate Str in Largs, then there should be no major works for a while. No updates re. pedestrian crossing.

3. Rigghill industrial wind development No date for the application to go before the Planning Comm TM It’s likely that it will be in March. 160 objections have been filed RH The contributions from the developers have been uploaded on the public website much faster than the contributions by anybody else have TM There have been delays due to the emergency situation, but this discrepancy should not have occurred. Planners are waiting for a written response from SEPA; if it’s received, the proposal will very likely go to Committee by the end of March; if not, there may be a delay

4. Tennis courts MoP (Mairi Wyatt), who lives near tennis courts, reported that the lower tennis court had been vandalised. Incident reported to Police (101). It’s the first occurrence of vandalism to the court. Now the Tennis Club are discussing padlocking the court and the football pitch. AHi Fairlie Community Sports Club has the lease of the courts and of the former putting green. Padlock would remind people that it is not a facility that’s open to the public, that users should be contributing towards its maintenance by joining the Club. The tennis court will likely be padlocked. The Club is discussing an informative leaflet to be distributed in Fairlie.

5. Seawall and slipway at the foot of the Causeway A MoP reported to FCC that the slipway seems to be undermined by tidal action. Mr. Russell McCutcheon of NAC was contacted, Mr. Crowley of NAC visited the site and assessed it as not currently in need of attention. NAC will also need to ascertain ownership of seawall and slipway. NAC have repaired it in the past, but that part of the beach belongs to Largs Yacht Haven

7. PeelPorts update/NAC Memorandum of Understanding/Drillship incident/Noise complaints A full report re. the noise caused by the drillships has been filed; no replies yet IM Vibrations are also noticeable, caused by the engines. Re. the mooring incident, IM asked what NAC are doing; reply was that it occurred offshore, so the investigation is lead by the Coast Guard and Marine Accident Investigation, that will keep NAC up to date. NAC are not actors in the investigation. IM objected that the incident started at the jetty, therefore not at sea. Will NAC support FCC’s request for an independent investigation? DT Marshall Islands (flag state of the drillships) have confirmed that they have started an investigation. UK will not, as the vessels are designed as not operational. PeelPorts have stated that they have started an investigation of their own. IM To be kept in mind that Hunterston was never designated as an open port, created as support for Ravenscraig and later Longannet. DN None of the environmental questions have ever been answered by NAC since the start of the Hunterston debate. Re. didemnum vexillum, working in liaison w the Marine Scotland invasive species team; samples will be collected. Also looking for media channels to raise public awareness of the issue

8. Clyde Muirshiel Regional Park consultative forum The Clyde Muirshiel Regional Park Consultative Forum has been closed down; NAC had already withdrawn. Renfrewshire and Inverclyde have also recently withdrawn. Each Council will look after its own assets in the Park, and Friends of the CMRP will continue to meet regularly. NA, Renfr and Invercl Cllrs have promised they will attend. Application to build new dams on Greeto; Largs CC are working on this.

9. Water quality and main sewage pipe DN Water is not balneable for 3 days after heavy rains, which overcome and overflow the sewer system. Maybe main sewer pipe (under beach) is leaking? Will ask Scottish Water to have this checked. Concern as more people are wild swimming; hopefully, they are aware of pollution in case of heavy rainfall

10. Coastal path Appears to be well built. Stretch N of Ferry Row not complete but close to completion. Builders are liaising with owners of properties overlooking the path. Steps to the beach will be built following down from the steps N of Ferry Row and in other spots to be defined.

Any Other Business + Karla Tully is (re)joining FCC as a full member. Proposed by RH, seconded by DN + Some trees, including 8 old growth beech trees were felled by NAC, notification given only after. AHo 8 beech trees, 2 scots pines along Southannan Estate. They were felled in order to access railway for emergency maintenance due to the landslide IM Trees were cut by ScotRail. NAC were asked after the fact + Trees have also been cut around the crags (which will be covered by netting) AHi NAC had opposed building in front of crags, overruled by reporter+ The tree at Hunterston roundabout, the one that used to be covered in baubles, has also disappeared. Anyone knows why? + In order to visit Hunterston lagoon (bird sanctuary) it’s necessary to be a RSPB member and to apply in advance + The footbridge over the burn past Fairlie Castle, on Fairlie Glen, is damaged due to decay of one of the railway sleepers with which it has been built, and others show signs of decay. It was originally built by Southannan, and it’s on the border between Kelburn Estate and Southannan Estate. It is used regularly. Who is in charge of its maintenance? RH Either Rosie, who works for Montgomery Est, or DB will have the right contact. MoP (Sam Courtney) who raised the question will contact DB

The next FCC meeting is on Monday 5 th of April 2021 (Easter Monday) at 07:30 pm by Zoom (link for MoPs will be provided on request; MoPs present at this meeting and those who have already expressed their interest will receive it)

FCC Minutes 01/02/2021

Fairlie Community Council – Monday 01/02/2021, h. 07:30pm, Zoom meeting

FCC: Rita Holmes (Chair); Marco Piva (minutes taker); Alan Holden; David Nairn; David Telford; Karla Tully
NAC: Cllr. Tom Marshall, Cllr. Alan Hill, Cllr. Ian Murdoch
Press: Calum Corral
3 MoP
Approval of January minutes:

proposed by AHo, seconded by DT
Police report: (read by KT as forwarded by PC Dominic Murphy on 31/01) 12/01/2021 – 31/01/2021: 15 incidents (compared to 14 in the same period last year) of which 1 crime (compared to 5 last year): 1 individual was reported to the Procurator Fiscal for an alleged historic offence of breach of the peace.
No speeders were detected despite several checks; attention will continue being given
PC Murphy was asked to check people running the red lights, he said he’d ask a colleague to; no information given on this
DT: the police report (this one or last month’s) the doesn’t mention anything on the car accident at the end of School Brae that happened around Christmas, despite a strong Police presence on the scene; wondering why.
1. A78 update
The consultation period has finished; the new crossing will definitely happen. Date expected is March 21st; the location (roughly at the bottom of the so-called “Ho Chi Minh steps”) has been confirmed pending a safety audit that will be held by an impartial auditor.
There has been some discussion on the topic on the Fairlie Facebook page; the main concern that emerged was the one that was discussed at Jan FCC: the new crossing appears to be too close to the bend, especially if the traffic is speeding. Safety audit will take this doubt into account
IM had a meeting w AMEY; he raised the same concern. He was told that, at the moment, the bus stop will not be moved, but it will be monitored and the situation will be reviewed (no time frame indicated). The branches overhanging the pavement will also be monitored so that they do not impact the visibility of the signage. All safety concerns have been addressed in detail. The independent safety audit will also focus on the signage.
2. Hunterston jetty and Peel Ports (noise and pollution concerns)
A letter has been sent to Mr. McSporran at Peel on 25/01 (many from Peel have been CCd) about the unnecessary noise caused by the drill ships and a concern from FCC re the inadequacy of berthing; no replies have been received; a second letter will be sent asking for answers
DN has circulated to FCC members a letter he has sent to Marine Scotland and SNH concerning the uncontrolled proliferation, strongly aided by the presence of the drill ships, of didemnum vexillum (commonly known as “carpet sea squirt” or “marine vomit”), a highly invasive, non-native species that was already present, albeit in much lower numbers, in the Clyde. It is a serious threat to the marine environment and, as a consequence, to the marine industry. Its presence will require a massive (and very expensive) eradication program, that is possible will take place within a couple of years (it had already been mentioned around 2012). PeelPorts biosecurity guidelines, if followed, would have prevented the berthing of the drill ships. An EIA performed when suggested would have also likely prevented it. Waiting for a reply from either Marine Scotland or SNH (or, hopefully, both). DN specifies that every detail he mentioned in his letter has been taken from scientifically proven papers and facts.
DT: the application from Peel to alter Condition 4 of the planning permission to dismantle oil rigs needs to be looked at: it appears to be an attempt to give credibility to a discredited planning permission. Peel should be asked to re-submit their planning application in full, including the EIA (Environmental Impact Assessment) required by law.
DN one of the last habitats for the Highland Daisy in the whole of the UK has been bulldozed by Peel
DT reads from last Saturday’s Herald (Commercial Review), saying that Cesscon Decon have stated that they have secured the Hunterston area for decommissioning services, all this while we have been clearly told that their involvement will not be happening
IM: Peel have been explicitly asked if Cesscon were still involved in their plan, and Peel have denied their involvement. This needs to be looked into.
3. Hunterston nuclear sites (DEPZ letter, next SSG)
MoP, resident at the borders of the DEPZ (Detailed Emergency Planning Zone). In 2020 she received a letter mentioning the possibility of the DEPZ being reduced from 2.4 to 2 km; in Jan 2021 she got confirmation that the DEPZ has indeed been reduced to 2 km following topographical features (so, it’s not a perfect circle). Her house, as well as the houses of some neighbours, have now dropped out of the DEPZ, so she will not receive any iodine tablets nor any information. The letter she received states that the number of residents in the DEPZ is unvaried, which doesn’t make sense to her. The letter was sent from Mr. Andrew Fraser, Head of Service at NAC, with an indication to contact Ms. Jane McGeorge at NAC for any information.
IM: this has been discussed at the Dec NAC meeting, which can be watched. The recommendation was to maintain the zone to 2.4 km as it was. IM had proposed an amendment to increase the zone to 20 km as it is in most of continental Europe, including France where EDF headquarters are; his amendment was not seconded.
RH suggests the MoP to contact Ms McGeorge and to attend the next Hunterston SSG, due to be held on Thursday the 4th of March via Zoom.
TM: a map showing the new and the old DEPZ is on the agenda of the Dec NAC meeting at pg 238; the proposal was presented by the officers; Mr. Andrew Fraser’s report can be read on the same agenda, item 8, pg 216.
DT had filed an objection suggesting to increase the area to include at least the nearest Primary Schools; points out that NAC’s legal opinion has been proven incorrect in the past
IM: the topic will be discussed again at the Feb NAC meeting
There are discussions on whether defueling and decommissioning are to be considered “operational” or not, as Peel are not allowed to dredge while the power station is operational (AHo explains that the reason for this is that debris caused by dredging may and indeed has in the past caused issues to the power station’s water intake)
TM suggests that the likely reasons behind this is the fact that Peel are talking with several potential investors (none of them has been made public yet) so they are likely to be trying to set up the area in order to make it more inviting; new investors will create new jobs
IM reminds that creating new jobs is of course of paramount importance, but it shouldn’t happen to the detriment of the local nature, marine habitat and human life
4. Coastal path
The newly built stretch extending to the North end of Ferry Row appears to be solid and well built; there are no updates concerning the next steps.
5. Dawn Homes
Nothing worth mentioning
6. Rigghill wind turbines development
The NAC Planning Committee will meet to discuss the topic on Feb 26th.
IM has asked to speak at the meeting as a representative of his constituents, but Cllrs who are not committee members are not permitted to do so; he has asked to address this point at the next NAC meeting
RH has applied to speak, and has been allotted the usual 10 minutes; the same goes for a representative of Skelmorlie CC. Prof. Alves Pereira will also speak.
DN expresses concerns for the well being of the crews of the drill ships, who are not permitted to disembark due to COVID restrictions
The Kirk has not contacted the crews, at least not in an official manner
MOP pointing out that there are branches overhanging numerous pavements, all year round
IM: the AMEY maintenance crews have confirmed that they will be monitoring this from now on
IM: cycle tracks, which are already up to scratch between Largs and WK, will probably be improved between Largs and Skelmorlie and around Cumbrae (or at least from the ferry to Millport)
DN asking for updates on a rumoured application for a fish farm
TM: only one has been filed, on the North coast of Arran
The next FCC meeting is on Monday 1st of March 2021 at 07:30 pm by Zoom (link for MoPs will be provided on request; MoPs present at this meeting and those who have already expressed their interest will receive it)

FCC Minutes 11/01/2021

Fairlie Community Council – Monday 11/01/2021, h. 07:30pm, Zoom meeting

FCC: Rita Holmes (Chair); Marco Piva (minutes taker); Alan Holden; David Nairn; David Telford; Ian Hunter
NAC: Cllr. Tom Marshall, Cllr. Alan Hill, Cllr. Ian Murdoch
Press: Calum Corral
Police: PC Simon Winsor
7 MoP (including Karla Tully, in charge of A78 issues)

Approval of December minutes: proposed by AHo, seconded by RH

Police report: 08/12/2020 to 11/01/2021: 35 calls of which 2 crimes (last year, 23 calls of which 2 crimes). One persistent caller due to neighbourhood complaints (including Covid19-related issues) increased the number.
The two crimes: 1 instance of vandalism (on Christmas and Boxing Day, paint was thrown on 5 cars parked on the main Road); 1 offence which took place in England but was reported by a local resident; PC Dominic Murphy is dealing with it.
FCC wants to express appreciation to the local Police force for their support in the present situation.

NA Councillors’ update: the Councillors will intervene as the various points are discussed

1: A78 (proposed pedestrian crossing)
Karla Tully has been leading this project since its inception; she gives the following presentation:
Survey has been done in late 2018/early 2019; KT personally met the Transerv Regional Manager in January 2019 and walked with him the length of the Main Street evaluating pros and cons of several possible locations for the new pedestrian crossing. The only site meeting all the possible criteria is at the foot of the so-called “Ho Chi Minh Trail”. Test readings have been done today (11/01), a consultation will be held in the next days. An external road safety consultant will be involved. The school’s PTA has been consulted. The signage in the village will be altered. The lollipop person shouldn’t be impacted (although they depend on NAC).
DN: the whole village should be a 20mph zone at school times
KT: we have been told that this won’t be possible as the A78 is a trunk road.
MoP: the new traffic light would be just past the bus stop; wouldn’t this be an issue with cars overtaking the bus?
MP: could the bus stop be moved 50 yds south?
KT: all this has been mentioned and will be considered

  1. Synchronous compensator
    AHo: a synchronous compensator is about the size of a delivery van, and it’d be housed in a building the size of a normal house designed to keep the noise in, with fan radiators outside; next to it there’d be a second building, roughly the same size, to house everything that’s needed for its operation. It is necessary to maintain the stability of the grid system, once Hunterston stops generating energy. The noise levels should be well under control. The nearest property is the cottage just before the Hunterston roundabout, 400 mt from the site; the owners and residents are aware of the application. Questions were asked as to why no actual real noise data had been provided with the Application for the Synchronous Compensator, as it was available from existing synchronous compensators, and it would be a preferable practice, rather than solely relying on theoretical noise data.
    DT: despite reassurances that the noise levels should be low, let’s file a request for a noise monitoring.
    AHi: wondering why this project is not being led by the national authority, as it is of national relevance and importance
  2. Peel Ports: application re variation of planning condition
    The point Peel are making is that defueling is a part of decommissioning; clarifications have been asked for.
    There will be the need for an EIA for the dredging, which can’t be done without compromising the station’s water intake; once the station is not operational, they will still need water but not as much as they do while operational
  3. Hunterston SSG update
    The anti-Covid19 measures on site are very strict.
    Work at HunterstonA is slow.
    Workers who have been on temporary contracts for over 9 years at HuntA are now permanent
    HuntB: Reactor 3 should be coming off line at the end of February; 6 more months of energy generation are possible after core inspections if core predictions are correct. Reactor 4 should follow the same cycle 2 weeks later, in March. Electricity will be produced, if possible, until late January 2022 and not later, no further extensions are possible; defueling will take 3 to 5 years, decommissioning will follow. It is unknown whether it will be NDA or EDF taking care of it.
    Next SSG on March 4th.
  4. Hunterston Parc/jetty
    Drill ships will remain stationed there for some time as they have no jobs to go to at the present time (the company has gone into receivership); the onboard ship generators will need to stay on 24/7 (as they are now) so the ships can remain on the ready. Allegedly, they are paying 8k£ per day in order to remain berthed at Hunterston (which is considered a fair/low price).
    Environmental Health had attended and measured noise from the drillships, as several complaints had been received. It was windy the day EH monitored and the noise specialist will return one late evening to measure noise inside properties.
    MoP: it is hardly “green” to be using polluting diesel generators to supply the drillships in what is supposed to be Hunterston Parc: Hub for Green Energy.
    FCC to write to Peel Ports again to ask about when mains electricity is to be available on the Jetty so we do not have to put up with unnecessary 24/7 noise.
    MoP complaining about the light pollution at night. Concerns were voiced over the vessels being at the jetty indefinitely as they did nothing for the scenic value of the area.
  5. Dawn Homes
    No news, the building of the flats is ongoing
  6. Coastal Path
    The works to N end of Ferry Row have started.
    MoP (Ferry Row resident): The Largs & Millport News seemed to be suggesting that the path may be diverted along the existing Ferry Row path; this has never been part of the plan nor it has ever been mentioned. Residents have been questioning this.
    Calum Corral (press): the info came from the Community Trust, it has been mentioned in the Church Newsletter
    IM will find further information

Calum C had an accident on his bike, a few weeks ago, in front of the church when a wheel got stuck after a fire hydrant cover fell in a fire hydrant hole, which resulted invisible as it was covered in water. Amey filled it within 24h, but it is something that people should be careful about

The next FCC meeting is on Monday 1st of February 2021  at 07:30 pm by Zoom (link for MoPs will be provided on request; MoPs present at this meeting and those who have already expressed their interest will receive it)

FCC Minutes 02/11/2020

Fairlie Community Council – Monday 02/11/2020, h. 07:30pm, Zoom meeting

Attending: FCC: Rita Holmes (Chair); Marco Piva (minutes taker); Alan Holden; David Telford; David Nairn NAC: Cllr. Tom Marshall; Cllr. Alan Hill; Cllr. Ian Murdoch 4 MoP

Approval of October minutes: proposed by DT, seconded by DN NA

Councillors’ update: the Cllrs elected to comment on the individual points on the agenda

1: A78 road closure Pasting email communication from Amey: Essential maintenance on the A78 between Kelburn Country Park and Fairlie North will commence from 8pm on Thursday 5 thNovember until Monday 9 thNovember 2020. The scheme, with a value of £132,000, will benefit road users by improving the condition of the carriageway and reducing the need for more extensive maintenance in future. This work requires an initial daytime lane closure on the A78 from 9.30am to 4pm, using a temporary traffic light system. The rest of the work will be completed overnight between 8pm and 6am, each night from 6 th November until the morning of the 9 thNovember. A full weekend closure will be in place with a signed diversion will be in operation. Northbound traffic on the A78 will be directed to leave at the A78 Chapel Hill Roundabout to B780 Dalry Road to B784 Dalry Junction. From here vehicles will travel on the B784 to the A760 Largs Road and re-join the A78 at Haylie Brae. Southbound traffic will follow the same diversion in the opposite direction. IM was on a meeting re roads a few weeks ago and this closure was not mentioned in that occasion. IM protested the lack of notice concerning this closure, insisting for having longer and clearer notice re future works. Also went on record saying that he considers that there is no point in resurfacing the road without addressing the well-known drainage issues

2: Remembrance Sunday NAC sent a note on 31/10 detailing restrictions and guidelines; AHold confirms that the Kirk had already planned accordingly

3: Accumulation of fallen leaves TM confirms that NAC is in charge, the road cleaning vehicle will be sent again (it has already been in Fairlie) under a 4-week programme that has already been approved and is in place. John Lockhart used to be in charge of the Countess steps; TM to contact him to see if he still is in charge and, if not, who is IM the flooding situation at the petrol station and across the road is getting worse: the drains are so clogged that they overflow with every rain, even when the Keppen Burn does not overtop. IM personally took care of having the drains cleaned, but the silt deposit is excessive; likely to be caused by Dawn Homes construction. He will find out who at NAC is in charge of monitoring the situation and bring the issue to their attention DT noted that it was a planning condition of the Dawn housing that the surface water flooding on the A78 would be dealt with as a planning gain; this has clearly not happened IM NAC and Transport Scotland have funded their part of the work, waiting for ScotRail to contribute their third part; no timeframe specified. TM confirms, will contact the individual in charge for updates 4: PeelPorts community liaison group Pasting notes shared by RH, who was present at the meeting This took place by Microsoft Teams on 27/10/20 with Warren Marshall the Liaison Officer, James McSporran the new Ports Director for the Clyde area and Lewis McIntyre Projects Strategy manager. Also present were Rita Holmes and David Nairn for FCC, Graham Wallace for Cumbrae CC, John Lamb for West Kilbride CC and Ian Dippie for Largs CC. NA Councillors Barr and Murdoch were also in attendance. WM was appointed interim chair. The May 2020 minutes were approved . Items discussed were Peel Ports Management changes and there was an update on proposed clean up at the site, with no specific dates for removal of the conveyor over the A78, or the removal of the rubber, coal and ore. FCC submitted written questions which will be answered in writing within 3 weeks of the meeting. We requested in writing that the meetings be audio recorded for accuracy. One proposal of note, that we were told will go to planning is a “green project”… not wind, not solar, not biomass. We were taken aback that the “green project” was waste incineration for energy production… no flu or chimney… no gaseous emissions… we were told there are plants like this, one in Germany and one in South Africa. We asked about waste coming in but got no information on this. If built it is likely to be on the stockyard not the Marine yard. We were told that there is competition from other places to berth the cruise liners, so unlikely they will come to Hunterston. PP spoke about aquaculture project and DN reminded if it is to be dependent on fish farms then there is a problem as we have too many already damaging the environment. David N spoke about the SSSI and access to it… We reminded PP that we are on one of the most beautiful waterways in Northern Europe and want it protected from inappropriate developments. The next liaison meeting is in April 2021. We will put the PP answers to our questions on the FCC website. The meeting was not recorded, PP were adamant in refusing this; TM reminded that outside meeting with the presence of NAC Cllrs never are recorded for public diffusion NACllrs have no further info re “green project” besides what mentioned at meeting. A motion was raised (by Cllr Alex Gallagher) at the latest full NAC meeting, but no proposal was filed. The main concern behind the motion was the loss of jobs after Hunterston closure. TM is not aware of any waste burning projects being close to be filed with planning; IM stated that, at the meeting, it was mentioned as something they are “looking at”, so we may have news in some months DN: aquaculture was mentioned (using recycled water); Crown Estate released a tender re fish and shellfish farming in the area; DN will follow up on this DT: CessCon Decom received a £100k loan from Business Loans Scotland to facilitate their operations at Hunterston – really an unsecured loan from the taxpayer. It is unclear what the status of this loan is (including whether the money has been paid to CessCon or not), as CessCon Decom are no longer involved at Hunterston IM: CessCon Decom were awarded a substantial loan from Ayrshire Growth Fund; unknown if they have received the money IM reminds that all renewable/green energy proposals have been initially brought forward by the late Mr. Ron Gilchrist.

5: Rigghill wind turbines Pasting notes shared by RH Burcote hosted an exhibition event in light of their Supplementary Environmental Information requested by statutory consultees and necessary as the original submissions did not meet requirements from SEPA, Roads, SNH, HES or NAC Environmental Health Noise. The Skelmorlie site is particularly scenic and has Roman remains as well as wildlife that needs protection. The peat is also at risk and NAC noise officer has already said that noise will be a problem for some residents. FCC is very concerned that output of turbine proposed is unprecedented on land (149.9M to blade tip and 4.2MW). Burcote deny there is any problem with ILFN. Burcote have stated in their latest flyer that the application will be determined the last quarter of 2020… this date, according to NAC planning is unlikely. We will see if Burcote appeal this on grounds of non determination. If they do then it does them no favours as their poor application has delayed this. FCC objected to the original plan and will submit a further objection as the plan is now to use the A78 through Fairlie which is unsuitable for such large heavy loads. We also do not want to see the destruction of the Routenburn Road. Our main concern is on health grounds. The planning app is expected in the 4 th quarter of 2020. TM: it’s very unlikely, first quarter of 2021 more likely. Also unlikely an appeal to ScotGov for non-determination, as they risk a rejection IM is strongly opposed, has applied to speak at Planning Comm when app is filed; so has Skelmorlie CC. TM there have been over 200 objections, speakers will be organised after the app is filed and the meeting is scheduled WKCC has already opposed the transit of heavy loads (over 100 expected) through WK MoP: Burcote are heavily in debt (around £8.2mill, a 2-pers company)

6: Hunterston site stakeholders group Pasting notes shared by RH The next SSG is Thursday, 3rd December by Zoom. Anybody who wishes to attend as a member of the public can request this from the Magnox secretariat. Written questions should be submitted in advance of the meeting, as the meeting is likely to be kept to two hours maximum. Currently the NDA is consulting on its draft Strategy 4 and the SSG will be submitting views on it by 6th November deadline. Anybody can submit comments on it. There have been 4 confirmed cases of Covid-19 at HNA. The Magnox socio economic fund has had few applications, so do apply if your group needs financial help with a project. Hunterston B has both reactors operating. R3 is expected to come offline in January 2021 and part of the graphite core will be checked for further cracking. EDF NGL plans to ask for a further 6 months of operation and R3 will and R4 will cease energy generation by January 2022. Then defuelling will start and take about 3 years after which decommissioning will commence. This CC through the SSG will continue to seek the best environmental outcomes possible regarding the decommissioning of HNB. We will also insist that only Hunterston radioactive wastes are treated and stored on site. NDA would like Torness waste to come to the Hunterston store. FCC has made it clear to NDA, that we do not want waste from outwith the Hunterston site. There is also a wish to dispose of reactor graphite near site, near surface and we opposed this as an unproven effective and safe method due to the Carbon 14 content in the reactor graphite. The Scottish government has told NDA that SG will not be the first to implement on site disposal of reactor graphite. We will publish the SSG Response on the Fairlie CC website in due course. Using Hunterston for graphite storing and for waste from other stations had already been discussed, objections had been filed and it had been taken off the table; it is now being discussed again. Objections will be filed again. There have been mentions of the statement that an operational Hunterston would be necessary to restart the power grid in Scotland in case of a complete shutdown (“black start”). AHold quotes official reports that deny this (hydro power is more than sufficient) IM states he has been ridiculed at Council level and by Mr Drew Cochrane on his column on the Largs & Millport News for questions he asked at SSG, questions that he considered reasonable and to which he received reasonable and clear answers by Magnox; he plans to raise issue at the next SSG; he also made this point at Largs CC, of which Mr Cochrane is a member. RH has also been ridiculed by Mr Cochrane on his column; she asked for apologies, Mr Cochrane replied that she has misinterpreted his words, RH asked again for an apology, none was offered.

7: Dawn Homes MoPs have complained about cutting of the old yew tree to build the new flats (presently under construction) and for the fact that the cliffs will not be visible when entering Fairlie from the north. 18 flats will be built

8: Locality Partnership The next meeting is on Dec 1 st 2020 (Tuesday); FCC are looking for volunteers to participate

9: NA workshop on housing needs There are no data on Fairlie AHill there are no sites to build social housing in Fairlie IM there is a shortage of social housing, but no sites to build it, nor commercial sites

10: New seating on the Mound Probably initiated and paid for by Fairlie Community Trust, that has to be congratulated for the initiative AOB: a) a MoP (not present at meeting) suggested to use the upper tennis court, which is presently unkempt, as a “doggy park” AHill: Fairlie Community Sports Club are in charge of the tennis courts, owned by NAC but not managed by NAC. Small pines are spontaneously growing on upper court (lower court has been recently restored to its function), they will probably be sold as Christmas trees for charity b) MoP: it looks like people have been speeding and running the red light more than before in recent months; wasn’t there a proposal to install a digital speed measurement signal? IM: it has been pointed out that youths often use digital speed measurement signals as “challenges” to speed as much as they can. Police vans are often present at either end of the village or in layby in village centre c) PeelPort have been asked to repaint bridge at the south end of village when they will have road closed to remove the overpass d) Police will be asked to be present or to send a written monthly report from next FCC meeting e) DN re SSSI signage: meeting with SMH was held, discussing what to be written on it (several parties involved). Process is slow but it has been initiated The next FCC meeting is on Monday 7 th of December at 07:30 pm by Zoom (link for MoPs will be provided on request; MoPs present at this meeting and who have already expressed their interest will receive it)

FCC Minutes 07/12/2020

Fairlie Community Council – Monday 07/12/2020, h. 07:30pm, Zoom meeting

FCC: Rita Holmes (Chair); Marco Piva (minutes taker); Alan Holden; David Telford; Ian Hunter
NAC: Cllr. Ian Murdoch
4 MoP
Apologies: NA Cllr Alan Hill; NA Cllr Tom Marshall

Approval of November minutes: proposed by DT, seconded by AH

NA Councillor’s update: the works on the main road North of Fairlie have been completed by AMEY. Took longer than announced because issues have been found more than once during works, mostly drainage issues (which had however already been mentioned by IM in person, in the past). Next phase in Feb, Haylie Brae to the Marina approx). Issues re the drainage on that stretch have been mentioned
AH reminds that still is a hole at the side of the road where the works have just been completed
IM confirms that it has been noted and that it should be looked into when the lines will be painted

1 Coastal Path
Works have started between Bay Str and the North end of Ferry Row. Ms Claire Fitzsimmons is likely the person in charge
MoP asks why are they starting now, when the tides are at their highest
Likely answer is a wish to start before the new financial year


2 Rigghill Wind Turbines
There is nothing new to say on this, we are waiting for NAC Planning Committee to discuss the issue. The Roads Committee have stated that there should be no issues for the transportation via road of the components of the turbines through West Kilbride and Fairlie; there may be some issues in Largs once the convoy will leave the main road.
IM asked Chair of Planning for permission to address the Committee on behalf of the constituents as an elected NAC Cllr; he was suggested to ask Fairlie or Skelmorlie CCs to share with him part of the 10 min allotted to each. IM points out that this seems to him unfair, and will make a case about it at the next full NAC meeting.
DT the Planning Committee sure won’t meet before next year; have the recommendations already been made public?
IM they have not.

3 Hunterston SSG

The meeting took place last week; nothing new, various strategies are being discussed.
DT We are safe from receiving waste from other sites as long as Hunt. B is working, but we can’t be sure on this after it stops operating
The Hunt. site mgr mentioned being open to discussion on this regard with PeelPorts, but registered a strong opposition from the local communities
IM asked the SSG if videos of the meetings can be made public; he was answered they can’t due to Data Protection rules
RH the minutes are however very detailed, so people can know exactly what was discussed. People can ask to join the meeting if they like
EDF have been clearing some land; they will make the public know what will be put there.
Defueling starts in early 2022; after 2/3 years, decommissioning will commence.
EDF will be consulting on future Planning Apps for treatment, packaging and storing of radioactive waste

4 Peel Ports

Shrubbery and sea buckthorn have been removed, from nearly 5 hectares of land adjacent to (but not part of) SSSI, it being reclaimed land. An explanation for this has been asked for, it hasn’t been received yet. Part of this land is where the positioning of a solar farm had been proposed by the late Mr. Ronald Gilchrist.
Mr. Hugh MacLean has sent a query re the proposed Synchronous Compensator unit (mentioned in planning docs) to TNEI, asking for further info. Also, the site proposed for it is at the South end of the coal stockyard, so if any seawater cooling is required pipes will have to cross the SSSI. No answer yet, Hugh will keep FCC posted.
DT will ask NA Cllr Tom Marshall, Chair of the NA Planning Committee, what he can say on this topic
Peel mentioned a “green project” and said it is a plant to burn waste for energy (“gasification plant”); it would have no chimneys. They stated that they are aware of two such plants, one in South Africa and one in Hamburg (Germany); RH: the latter is extremely big in size. It is likely to be built at the South end of the stock yard. A Planning App may be coming, and then we’ll be able to better understand what it would entail

5 Dawn Homes
No news
IM the gullies have been cleaned where the flooding has been an issue for years, the issue was not solved. It has been reported more than once. The drains are so deeply choked by the silt from the hill that the area keeps flooding. It must be repaired permanently.

6 SEPA survey of habits during COVID

The consultation is nearly finished (via letters). The report will say what habits have changed.

7 Clyde Muirshiel Regional Park Authority

It is being disbanded; NA, Inverclyde and W Renfrewshire will take care of the infrastructure on their territory but there will be no overseeing. A meeting will be held on Fri 11th Dec
MoP asks to check if privates will be able to apply (through Planning) to build on former park areas
DT it should be retaining Reg. Park status, only w/o any central management
The responsibility will lay with the local authorities

8 Wild Oysters Project Update
David Nairn, who was to give an update on this, is not present; he will be asked to circulate a note#


  1. When will the next CC elections take place?
    IM suspended until further notice
  2. Semple Ctr
    IH when FCC were using it regularly, FCC were giving a donation; when FCC restart using it, maybe consider the possibility of a fixed payment
  3. Police will be asked to send a report before the next FCC meeting
  4. IM there have been noise complaints because of the ships docked at Peel
    AH new power cabinets seem to have been set up along the jetty
    FCC to get clarifications re frequency of ships and to try to prevent/reduce at a minimum noise pollution

+ motion to move the next FCC meeting from 04/01/2021 to 11/01/2021, carried.

The next FCC meeting is on Monday 11th of January 2021  at 07:30 pm by Zoom (link for MoPs will be provided on request; MoPs present at this meeting and those who have already expressed their interest will receive it)

FCC Minutes 04/11/19

Fairlie Community Council (FCC) Minutes 04/11/2019

Present: Rita Holmes (chair), David Nairn, Karla Tully, Alan Holden, Ian Hunter, David Telford, Marco Piva; Cllr. Ian Murdoch, Cllr Tom Marshall; PC Dominic Murphy (Police); 7  members of the public. Apologies: Andy Temple,(FCC)  

October minutes proposed by AH, seconded by DN.

Police report     24 calls & 4 crimes in the month of Oct  (2 crimes in 2018). Two road traffic offences; one breach of the peace; one breach of bail.

DM followed up requests from last FCC for the safety camera partnership to re-assess whether the layby at  Southannan on the A78 could be used for a Speed Camera van. This has been approved due to 30 mph extension.

DT re-raised the regularity that cars are jumping the traffic lights at the top of The Causeway.  DM reminded everyone that the time, registration and incident details should be reported to the police by calling 111.

Councillors’ update  IM: Updates made  in agenda points.  Next full NAC Council meeting 13th November.  Any questions must be submitted 7 calendar days before. 

TM: Sunday Times article 02/11/2019 cited NAC as good example of planning permission granted for small developments through officer decisions. 

  1. Peel Ports Update (PP)       RH updated the FCC as follows:

“Peel Ports Community Liaison Group. The September minutes have been agreed as correct by FCC and PP and circulated to the CC members. There is a spare copy if anyone wants it. The next meeting is in April 2020. The Port Director answered some recent FCC questions : “Rig discussions are ongoing for repair or layup, (at Main Jetty). Nothing confirmed at this stage. PP requested that when  this message is being communicated, please ensure that everyone is informed that if it does happen, NO decommissioning will take place, that is not the purpose of these rigs possibly visiting Hunterston. I will keep you informed if and when anything is confirmed. The crane works are ongoing, due to bad weather delays. They are now struggling to complete by year end, however they are planning to keep working to complete ASAP. The conveyor across the road is proving challenging, trying to get track and road possession together for the time that`is required to set up and safely remove the structures. They are now looking at March as a possible date for the removal but again I will keep you advised.”RH also stated that as ‘Port Authority’ PP have stated that it can decide on any  use of the jetty and are considering mooring rigs for ‘layup or refurb’ on the east side (Fairlie side), of the jetty. RH has made it clear that Fairle Community Council will request this work be moved to the west side. Although these uses may be ‘temporary’ no time scales or definition of temporary has been given by PP.

DN raised that the Marine Scotland licence decision has still not been made and that waste licences will also be necessary.

TM agreed to ask  NAC Planning Department for ongoing updates on the PP plans for the jetty. 

IM has written to NAC asking for details of the £100k loan given to CessCon.  This loan was not given by PP or NAC. CessCon have just published annual results with a loss of £150k and no employees.  Concerns that public money has been wasted. 

  1. SSG Update  RH’s update as follows:

“The December SSG is cancelled due to Nuclear Decommissioning Authority decision. This is unfortunate given the current issue of Keyway root cracking in both reactors. R3 is still offline and R4 will be nearing its 4 month allowed generating period in December. The Office of Nuclear Regulation expects R4 to come offline in December, for further Graphite checks before its Safety Case and that of R3 which has more advanced cracking, are assessed and a decision made by ONR on whether to allow further generation of either. The new Safety Case 7785 has an Operational Allowance for 700 cracks and a CDTolerance Limit of 1331 cracks. Unusually for ONR and due to heightened public interest in the Graphite Issue, ONR, as well as the Project Assessment Report, has on its website, the 4 accompanying technical reports that support the PAR. The five reports are reasonably easy to understand and helpful. Hunterston B, ONR and SEPA are ready to answer any questions posed and HNB has offered a meeting anytime to members of the SSG. I will have more information after I meet with ONR on the 7th November in London at the ONR/NGO Forum and will keep the CC up to date. Last Thursday was the first Scottish Sites meeting in a year. The Scottish Civil nuclear sites and the MOD sites gave reports and discussed various issues.”SSG are still awaiting details of the ‘Emergency Planning zone’.  NAC will see details January 2020.

At Scottish Sites, RH questioned NAC’s technical knowledge and capability to review and contribute to the plans. Dounreay Site representatives also voiced concern that Highland Council were in the same category. 

The Civil Contingency team (Scottish Government) have not included Portencross residents in the current DEPZ. Hopefully the DEPZ will be extended.

TM stated that budget cuts mean no council has such expertise, but asked ‘who else’ would be qualified. 

Both DN and RH questioned why the local population are not involved, especially on the issue of Potassium iodate  tablets. 

  1. Fairlie Castle      David McNeur has  sent a letter to Historic Environment Scotland as he is concerned that HES is not aware that the NAC planning permission for the castle ‘extension’ has been changed, discharged and ultimately removed the necessity to restore the castle, in order for a dwelling to be on the site.  DMcN believes NAC’s handling of the planning applications have enabled the owner to ultimately avoid protecting the castle and have the protected designation of the ancient monument changed. Scottish Power had to gain permission to fell trees in proximity of the castle yet the owner has done so without gaining specific permission. DMcN will circulate a draft letter for FCC members to consider sending to HES , as the castle is of ‘ cultural importance’ to the  community and there are clear risks to local archeological and natural areas too. 

FCC agreed to consider the draft when sent by DMcN. 

  1. Rigghill Industrial Wind Turbines   RH made a point of emphasising that the size of the turbines  planned are the tallest on land in the UK so far. RH updated as follows:

“Invicta is the Public Affairs firm dealing with this and Burcote is involved at this stage. The developer if this went ahead would likely be ERG an Italian firm. The land in question is behind Meigle, Skelmorlie and towards Largs. There is an important Roman Site there as well as badger setts and other protected species. It is also part of the Regional Park and borders a SSSI. FCC and West Kilbride CC have made the decision not to engage in discussion on Community Benefit with Burcote and Invicta. Public presentations on 26th 27th and 28th Nov are planned, where we will be told about the design etc. After our experience with the Offshore wind turbines at Hunterston we are keen to see the developer’s proposals and hear how they are taking infrasound and amplitude modulation into account. These are likely to be larger and more powerful than anything currently on land in the UK. I have written on behalf of FCC outlining our concerns and requesting that at their Public Presentations they address potential health problems associated with these larger turbines.”

TM stated that “unfortunately NAC agreed to wind turbines in the ‘wild lands’ near the new crematorium and at Rigghill.  Only wild land in North Ayrshire and Arran. FCC believe any community benefit could not outweigh the cost to the environment and health impact. Scottish Government have on occasion overridden LAs  who have denied permission in regional parks. NAC could consider application through delegated powers but choosing to go to full committee. RH reminded FCC that any proposal for generating 50 mw or more is reviewed by the Scottish Government. IM reminded everyone that no applications have yet been put in.  RH and FCC representatives have met with developers alongside Skelmorlie, and Largs CCs. Burcote and Invicta have asked FCC representatives to meet with them, but RH is reluctant. 

  1. Library/Village Hall/ NA Budget Consultative meeting   RH stated that FCC will support Fairlie Community Association`s campaign to retain the Village Hall and library, by writing to NAC.  DT to draft letter and send to KST for editing. All parties are still questioning whether the savings are proportional to the revenue received from Fairlie council tax payments.  TM stated that NAC need to save £35 million and the budget consultative meeting will be held in December 2019. Saved £9 million on capital repayments on previous budgets so options are restricted. 
  2. Remembrance Sunday   Ian HUnter to lay the FCC wreath on behalf of the FCC. Centenary of the first Remembrance Sunday. 
  3. AOB  l. Recent A78 Closure  Issue raised by Brian, Village Inn LandLord.  Concerned that the door to door leaflets were only a few days before the closure and were inaccurate.  The pub, car wash, Michelle’s take away, garage and hairdressers suffered losses as customers were turned away being told that the businesses were closed.  Some residents were able to access their homes as promised, but others including carers were denied access. Brian had to cancel a pre-booked party also causing lost revenue.  IM had previously met with Transerv to ensure the necessary local access and was disappointed that this was not given. Convoys were agreed to give access for residents, but these were not consistently run across the closure period. Briann called Transerv who stated that FCC had selected the dates and agreed the arrangements.  RH responded that the consultation was poor and the dates were to ensure residents were able to get to their employment Monday to Friday. Transerv changed the works planned, did not inform RH. Not all households were informed by leaflet. Actions were taken at the last minute.NAC Councilors and FCC committed to raise these issues with Transerv prior to the next closure likely to be March/April 2020. 
  4. Village Inn future

Brian raised that fewer Fairlie residents supported the pub over the closure weekend than he hoped despite communications on Facebook.  The Largs and Millport paper also published an old article stating that the Village Inn was closed due to a legal dispute with the owner.  This was an old re-published article but affected revenue further. 

In order to keep the pub alive Brian has calculated that if 400 people visited the pub every 6 weeks and spent £20 in that period the pub would be successful.  He has recently refurbished the dining room to ensure it is warmer in winter. 

Brian asked why NAC Councillors would not support the pub with a brown sign despite offering ro provide access to toilets after the public toilet closure.  

 Councillor Hill was looking into a tourist sign.  TM committed to action. 

lll.  Fairlie village pontoon

DN suggested raising funds for a village pontoon that could attract pub customers too.  DN to re-energise Fairlie Coastal Trust group for this purpose. 

Next meeting : Monday 2nd December 2019, Semple Centre, 7.30 pm. DT and KST apologies already received.